Curse

Tarun · Aug 08, 2006, 02:56 PM // 14:56

All for it, because with a high level you have to work to earn something; opposed to instant gratification.

xBakox · Aug 08, 2006, 02:57 PM // 14:57

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And for Bako... LOL so how did you read my post but you obviously need some reading comprehension. I'll spell it out for you.

Sorry I stopped reading at the first paragraph when you said to raise the level cap.

And ya know what I say now that youve spelled it out for me?

No.

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I read that thread from RPGstars that someone posted in this thread, which was a year old. So many people then expected higher levels. I wonder where those power gamers are now. They probably quit the game sadly.

Not sadly. They paid for the game and they dont pay a monthly fee, so it doesnt matter. This game is revolved around PvP (I'm not saying this is a PvP game, its just as much PvE) and so a level cap isnt nessicary at all. Your a power gamer? Go power level and get r6. Not a PvPer? Go farm for a perfect Fellblade in the Troll cave

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Fender · Aug 08, 2006, 03:02 PM // 15:02

Worst recurring suggestion in GW history. No.

Count Feanor · Aug 08, 2006, 03:03 PM // 15:03

The only thing raising the level cap would do is bring more headaches, more balancing, more grinding, more crap. The level is perfect where it is. The game is set up fine.

Definitely not signed.

Tarun · Aug 08, 2006, 03:04 PM // 15:04

Another thing about these threads is it's amusing how many people are too lazy to level so they flame and cry about someone wanting to talk about and suggest raising the cap. Grow up people.

Count Feanor · Aug 08, 2006, 03:22 PM // 15:22

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Originally Posted by Tarun

Another thing about these threads is it's amusing how many people are too lazy to level so they flame and cry about someone wanting to talk about and suggest raising the cap. Grow up people.

It's also funny how many people continue posting this without thinking how needless it is. There are so many things to work for in this game already yet a few are intent on grinding levels. They don't seem to realize that raising the level cap would require rebalancing the ENTIRE GAME. Had they had a higher cap in the beginning, it would be a different story. However, this game is not set up for grinding, nor was it intended; neither is it needed or wanted.

Loviatar · Aug 08, 2006, 03:24 PM // 15:24

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Originally Posted by Kalki

I can't believe I couldn't find a single thread in these forums regarding the raising of the the level cap. I checked through the index of ideas thread (found all.

here are a few reasons why people are pissed at it coming up AGAIN

first page of the garbage idea.

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Increase the level cap to 100, 1000, whatever...
Kalki 02:49 8-Aug-06 71 556
in these forums regarding the raising of the the level cap.. I checked through the index of ideas thread (found here), and did a few searches too.. I guess any change is better then ...

Levels, leveling, level caps, and level 20
Sausaletus Rex 05:45 29-Dec-04 652 45924
you level.Yes, you gain health with each level.. It's currently 20 points.. no one knows exactly how long it will take you to reach the cap just yet...

Level Cap...
Unnamed 03:43 18-May-05 23 322
Level cap, so that we could level up more than just 20......

Low Level Cap
Unnamed 03:24 6-Jan-06 5 224
I was just wondering if there was any talk of Arena.net making the level cap any greater...

When will level cap go up?
Unnamed 23:25 29-Jul-05 11 222
I'm hoping that eventually the cap will increase, if only a little, and more items will be introduced, with higher max damages.. I just can't feel good about my character when I say...

Skill Point Question
Unnamed 19:17 9-May-05 5 178
and you can still get skill points even after you reach the cap level.. What's the rate at which you gain a skill point based on XP? For example, I know that refund points are gaine...

HP cap??
Unnamed 05:19 8-May-05 16 898
are there HP caps for characters under level 20? I'm a E/Me17 and can't get my HP above 488. I just bought a minor rune of vigor and applied it...

Level 20?
Unnamed 15:05 27-May-05 1 84
I know the cap is level 20 but is there anything to do after level 20 and by gaining skills after level 20 what kind of skills? I just got the...

Level question - maybe a repost
Hakaido 15:56 7-Jul-05 7 217
So obviously it takes longer to get from level 19 to 20 then it did to get from level 1 to 2.... When a future expansion comes out that will up the level cap, any idea how levels ...

Factions Question about character levels
Unnamed 18:18 6-Feb-06 2 93
What level is the character when its created? Will it be level 1 or something higher? I was wondering if the new mission will be for XP and.. will the new quests be worth doing since ...

Elitism or Skill vs. Time
Sli Ander 21:00 6-Aug-06 73 1582
not players[thats another story entirely]) is that the skill cap causes people to focus on the skills you carry.. In other games a level 50 can look at a level 20 and say "this ...

Does anyone really use scrolls?
h4mx0r 17:45 21-May-06 9 224
considering there is a level cap of 20, and not to mention quest rewards can get your further with skill points, is there really any point to using scrolls...

new races? and some more questions
A NERD1989 11:30 18-Sep-05 27 549
will they increase the level cap?will theymake it so you can have more then 4 characters? coz i have 4 different eles and i want more char...

Newbie to Guild Wars Factions
dazonline 12:34 28-May-06 6 152
Ive noticed that the level cap is 20 in the game.. Is there any plans to raise the cap? Ive only played a few days and im almost level 7.Im still getting my head around the crafting...

Maximum Attribute > 16 ???
Unnamed 06:49 18-Sep-05 9 288
Skills get cap at Attr.. Level 16? Do they benefit further from higher Attr.. Level such as 18 or even 20?I know the Health lost isn't worth it sometimes, and the Equipment +2 Attr...

GuildWars Expansion Pack?
Unnamed 05:31 10-May-05 63 1585
~ The expansion will feature a higher level cap.~ New areas, enemies, items, and new regions.~ New arena types and games (such as King of the Hill, etc.)~ New clan...

Simple question....
Unnamed 15:30 24-Jan-06 5 93
Is the level cap ever going to increase? This one problem is bugging me so much in Guild Wars, why 20 only? At least make it 50 so I actually.. I wouldn't mind and the level increase i...

Thinking of Making the Switch
Unnamed 02:29 30-Mar-06 17 353
and get to the level cap, you kinda want to be able to play him..like pretty much the same cities except with different level characters or mobs roaming the streets...

Moving into Old Ascalon, wtf!
Unnamed 07:58 5-May-05 2 247
there is no level cap for keeping people out that don't know what they are doing...

MMORPG Old Timer
Unnamed 16:13 17-May-05 20 373
I could slowly progress here and not get level cap and be bored fast...

A few questions.
DavidCrush 07:49 23-Jul-06 4 44
Umm also what is the level cap on this game?I have lots of questions but I dont want to overload this post...

Whatever it is, its NOT a memory issue...
esteroth12 15:48 20-Jul-06 14 286
Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess.. C-Media Inc. HW Accel Level: Fu...

High End Content & Other Questions
Unnamed 17:21 4-May-05 20 550
I know about the level 20 cap (that is probably my main attraction to the game .... an easily reachable cap) but I am wondering if at level 20 there is a LOT of PVE content ...2) Is...

thinking of trying GuildWars...
Ruzz 18:16 4-Jun-06 18 407
Do we kill mobs again and again to level up? (eg, maplestory)- Level cap?- What's the difference between Guild Wars Prophecy and Guild Wars Factions?Some guy said this...

Skill points beyond 20
Impact Hound 11:02 9-Jul-06 3 88
Is there a cap to how many skill points you can earn onc your level maxes and exp then begins earning SP? On a related note, what is the cap for your attributes...

Sasuke The Betrayer · Aug 08, 2006, 03:25 PM // 15:25

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Originally Posted by Kalki

And you still wear 1.5k Drok's?

Cough...off topic..cough..hypocrite...what? Oh, btw you saked for some links to other people complaining about this topic. I have given you link, but you've ignored it.

Rent · Aug 08, 2006, 03:40 PM // 15:40

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Originally Posted by Tarun

All for it, because with a high level you have to work to earn something; opposed to instant gratification.

Yes, Tarun, we know you're a grindmonkey. You don't let us forget it. Thank you.

Loviatar · Aug 08, 2006, 03:46 PM // 15:46

there is only one reason to raise a level number without increasing the power of the character is bragging rights of my character is higher level than yours so i am superior.

this is caused by elitests who find themselves surrounded by inferiors who are looking just as level 20 good as they are.

which leads to a mental syndrome commonly refered to as........

*OMG I AM SURROUNDED BY EQUAL LOOKING PEOPLE WITH NO WAY TO SHOW HOW SUPERIOR I REALLY AM TO THEM ALL*

Sasuke The Betrayer · Aug 08, 2006, 03:50 PM // 15:50

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

there is only one reason to raise a level number without increasing the power of the character is bragging rights of my character is higher level than yours so i am superior.

this is caused by elitests who find themselves surrounded by inferiors who are looking just as level 20 good as they are.

which leads to a mental syndrome commonly refered to as........

*OMG I AM SURROUNDED BY EQUAL LOOKING PEOPLE WITH NO WAY TO SHOW HOW SUPERIOR I REALLY AM TO THEM ALL*

EXCEPT TITLES!!!!

Count Feanor · Aug 08, 2006, 03:52 PM // 15:52

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

there is only one reason to raise a level number without increasing the power of the character is bragging rights of my character is higher level than yours so i am superior.

this is caused by elitests who find themselves surrounded by inferiors who are looking just as level 20 good as they are.

which leads to a mental syndrome commonly refered to as........

*OMG I AM SURROUNDED BY EQUAL LOOKING PEOPLE WITH NO WAY TO SHOW HOW SUPERIOR I REALLY AM TO THEM ALL*

QFT

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Originally Posted by Sasuke The Betrayer

EXCEPT TITLES!!!!

But titles don't affect game play. I can't whoop you with a title.

Sasuke The Betrayer · Aug 08, 2006, 03:59 PM // 15:59

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

*OMG I AM SURROUNDED BY EQUAL LOOKING PEOPLE WITH NO WAY TO SHOW HOW SUPERIOR I REALLY AM TO THEM ALL*

That is the part I was referring to.

Loviatar · Aug 08, 2006, 04:01 PM // 16:01

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Originally Posted by Count Feanor

QFT

But titles don't affect game play. I can't whoop you with a title.

when i get incorrigable ale hound you just watch me whoop.......and loop....and spin..and maybe visit the bushes real fast

Count Feanor · Aug 08, 2006, 04:03 PM // 16:03

Ah, I see. Though I think I'd rather have an elitist throw a title at me than a can of whoop a$$ because of him grinding to level "awesome".

Titles don't affect me; raising the level cap would.

Count Feanor · Aug 08, 2006, 04:09 PM // 16:09

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

when i get incorrigable ale hound you just watch me whoop.......and loop....and spin..and maybe visit the bushes real fast

LOL!

Whoops, double post. :P

Cjlr · Aug 08, 2006, 04:17 PM // 16:17

Coherent, civil arguments don't seem to get anywhere with this argument, so I might as well have a little fun with it. I fully expect this post to get deleted, but I'd certainly resent it somewhat. As pointless as this contribution is, it was at least fun to write. And so, without further ado, let me present to you: Flames! Flames! Flames! Towering infernos of hate reaching towards the heavens! Ready and set and go!

Author's Note: The views expressed in the following post are not, strictly speaking, cjlr's, and are definately not be shared by some readers. Cjlr appologises in advance for any resentment and murderous hatred the reader may feel. Reader discretion is advised.

This thread and all of its ilk, festering cesspools of misinformation and blind idiocy that they are, only serve to make it abundantly clear that there are two kinds of guild wars players. Those that understand the game, and those that don't. The ones that understand also realize that the level cap is indeed arbitrary, but that there are some damn good reasons for it being in place. The ones that don't just blindly go through the motions, their vapid skulls filled with a thoughtless haze and their fingers stolidy manipulating their keyboards despite the total lack of direction being provided by that big empty thing upstairs.

Just because you're a pathetic little shitcock who needs to see big numbers flashing onscreen in order to give a little meaning to your empty life doesn't mean that all of us do.

Raising the level cap means either one of two things: either it affects stats, or it doesn't. If it does, the whole existing game goes out the window. All the mechanics currently in place are voided and everything needs to be rebalanced. And yet, the fundamentals are unchanged. For example: what we have now is level 20 players fighting level 24-28 mobs. Guess what would happen if we had level 30 players? Level 34-38 mobs! And it would be so completely different! I can sure imagine how different and new and exciting and completely revolutionary and not the same as before that would be! Can't you?

The other option, of course, is to remove that cap on progression but make it meaningless in terms of gameplay. I fail to see the point to that, but apparently some of you do. I would really love to be enlightened as to the point of this change, really I would. If someone can explain to me how changing the name only would affect your playing experience in any sort of significant fashion I'd love to hear it. I mean what, do you also smash your head against brick walls just because they're there? And if you don't, could you? An old dead guy once said (vicariously, of course), "a rose by any other name would smell as sweet". Well, guess what? Level 20 by any other name would have play the same. And an idiot by any other name would remain as foolish.

Another thing to keep in mind is that any sort of leveling would naturally need to be based on experience. And in that case... What happens to the people who already have 10,000,000+ experience? Instant level 100+ as soon as the cap is removed. Yeah, that'd be fulfulling. People who've been level 20 for any significant amount of time would be instantly kicked up to the new limit. And it would just be more grind for new players before they reached an "acceptable" level to participate in end-game content. A perfect and flawless solution from only the brightest of pundits, I'm sure.

In conclusion, I hate you all.

PS: I was not completely serious in the above. I hope it shows.
PS Redux: I found about a million threads about this already. How did the OP manage not to see any of them?

kaya · Aug 08, 2006, 04:18 PM // 16:18

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Originally Posted by Count Feanor

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Originally Posted by Sasuke The Betrayer

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

there is only one reason to raise a level number without increasing the power of the character is bragging rights of my character is higher level than yours so i am superior.

this is caused by elitests who find themselves surrounded by inferiors who are looking just as level 20 good as they are.

which leads to a mental syndrome commonly refered to as........

*OMG I AM SURROUNDED BY EQUAL LOOKING PEOPLE WITH NO WAY TO SHOW HOW SUPERIOR I REALLY AM TO THEM ALL*

EXCEPT TITLES!!!!

But titles don't affect game play. I can't whoop you with a title.

You missed the fact that they were talking about raising lvl cap Without increasing the power of the character.

So, raising the lvl cap without it increasing the power of the character would in fact be the same thing as titles. Just another way to show off how much you play the game.

I hate to say it, but that's what a lot people like about games. So, what would raising the lvl cap do to the game? Imo it would just add another way for ppl to boast about themselves. Just as adding titles to a game does. :P

Count Feanor · Aug 08, 2006, 04:24 PM // 16:24

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Originally Posted by kaya

You missed the fact that they were talking about raising lvl cap Without increasing the power of the character.

So, raising the lvl cap without it increasing the power of the character would in fact be the same thing as titles. Just another way to show off how much you play the game.

I hate to say it, but that's what a lot people like about games. So, what would raising the lvl cap do to the game? Imo it would just add another way for ppl to boast about themselves. Just as adding titles to a game does. :P

And that's very sad.

That boggles my mind even more! What a waste of time! AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

kaya · Aug 08, 2006, 04:30 PM // 16:30

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Originally Posted by Count Feanor

And that's very sad.

That boggles my mind even more! What a waste of time! AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

True... a waste of time. Just as much as the fight for titles. Yet, people love them, and waste their gaming time chasing after them. Probably just as many people love titles as would love to fight for a higher lvl title. :O